Beyond the Technology: leading in the age of AI
Katy Gooblar and Michael Webb lead a thought-provoking discussion that challenges assumptions and inspires a reimagining of how we work, learn, and lead in the age of AI.
In this episode, Michael Webb, our director of AI, chats with Katy Gooblar, co-founder of Rebel Hive and future of work consultant, to explore how data and AI are reshaping higher and further education.
Together, they dive into the critical questions organisations need to ask before adopting AI, the importance of purpose-driven strategies, and the human skills that will define leadership in an AI-integrated world.
From tackling misconceptions about AI as a ‘magic fix’ to addressing the risks of creativity erosion and generational divides, this conversation offers practical insights for leaders, educators, and anyone navigating the evolving workplace.
Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion that challenges assumptions and inspires a reimagining of how we work, learn, and lead in the age of AI.
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