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	<title>Comments on: JISC Review – reshaping for the future</title>
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		<title>By: Ilyes</title>
		<link>http://www.jisc.ac.uk/blog/jisc-review-reshaping-for-the-future/#comment-1942</link>
		<dc:creator>Ilyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 03:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d argue that the outcome of the origanil IE documentation wasn&#039;t just the adoption of Open Standards, but about the adoption of common standards across the sector. I&#039;d argue that (low cost) interoperability is not just about open standards, but uniformity.I think the documentation also gave the community something to take to vendors (as opposed to internal developers). When you are talking to a vendor, being able to say  the whole UK HE sector is behind this&#039; is a very strong statement, and perhaps the only way of getting vendors to make the necessary investment in certain areas.I can certainly see some arguments for having a more abstract description of the IE in a  Technical foundations&#039; document. However I do think that the strength of the origanil documentation is in that it gives some specifics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d argue that the outcome of the origanil IE documentation wasn&#8217;t just the adoption of Open Standards, but about the adoption of common standards across the sector. I&#8217;d argue that (low cost) interoperability is not just about open standards, but uniformity.I think the documentation also gave the community something to take to vendors (as opposed to internal developers). When you are talking to a vendor, being able to say  the whole UK HE sector is behind this&#8217; is a very strong statement, and perhaps the only way of getting vendors to make the necessary investment in certain areas.I can certainly see some arguments for having a more abstract description of the IE in a  Technical foundations&#8217; document. However I do think that the strength of the origanil documentation is in that it gives some specifics.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiessekart</title>
		<link>http://www.jisc.ac.uk/blog/jisc-review-reshaping-for-the-future/#comment-1931</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiessekart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 19:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the comment above aluohtgh to JISC&#039;s credit I think they understand the importance of developers more than many institutions where they are still seen as  IT staff&#039; or required for maintaining legacy library systems and assisting with online marketing. Developers should be likened to researchers with a distinct community of peers, mature tool sets and productive methodologies.  They should be supported in their own right rather than as merely adding value to and supporting institutional processes and practices.  Perhaps their productivity is seen as a threat to institutional stability? The weight of the institution is often too great to move in time with the rapid innovations being made in the world of code. There is also the reocurring and tired argument that technology should not drive pedagogy but support and enhance it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the comment above aluohtgh to JISC&#8217;s credit I think they understand the importance of developers more than many institutions where they are still seen as  IT staff&#8217; or required for maintaining legacy library systems and assisting with online marketing. Developers should be likened to researchers with a distinct community of peers, mature tool sets and productive methodologies.  They should be supported in their own right rather than as merely adding value to and supporting institutional processes and practices.  Perhaps their productivity is seen as a threat to institutional stability? The weight of the institution is often too great to move in time with the rapid innovations being made in the world of code. There is also the reocurring and tired argument that technology should not drive pedagogy but support and enhance it.</p>
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		<title>By: ps.</title>
		<link>http://www.jisc.ac.uk/blog/jisc-review-reshaping-for-the-future/#comment-30</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 17:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yay, for what JISC has done over the past 10 years. It was JISC funding that got Open Access to research off the ground, and DevCSI has fostered a community of .ac.uk developers which has significantly improved my ability to do my job, as I now have a peer group of people who care about the same stuff as I do, the line between research and administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yay, for what JISC has done over the past 10 years. It was JISC funding that got Open Access to research off the ground, and DevCSI has fostered a community of .ac.uk developers which has significantly improved my ability to do my job, as I now have a peer group of people who care about the same stuff as I do, the line between research and administration.</p>
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		<title>By: JISC doesn't fund services</title>
		<link>http://www.jisc.ac.uk/blog/jisc-review-reshaping-for-the-future/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>JISC doesn't fund services</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 17:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The university community often produces useful services out of JISC projects, or out of their own side projects.

The current JISC model means that these wither and die as it&#039;s nobodys job to care about them after then end of a project. The same goes for the development of libraries and tools. 

The JISC should look for ways to alter the way it funds things to encourage the curation and basic support of such things past the end of a project. Perhaps a small payment would be enough to keep a service running and supported. ie. £500/year for 10 years after then end of the project or until the service is no longer cost-effective to maintain. It should be enough to keep the lights on AND to encourage people to design systems which will be in it for the long haul, not just the end of the project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The university community often produces useful services out of JISC projects, or out of their own side projects.</p>
<p>The current JISC model means that these wither and die as it&#8217;s nobodys job to care about them after then end of a project. The same goes for the development of libraries and tools. </p>
<p>The JISC should look for ways to alter the way it funds things to encourage the curation and basic support of such things past the end of a project. Perhaps a small payment would be enough to keep a service running and supported. ie. £500/year for 10 years after then end of the project or until the service is no longer cost-effective to maintain. It should be enough to keep the lights on AND to encourage people to design systems which will be in it for the long haul, not just the end of the project.</p>
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